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Two Jesus Christs

Saturday, June 13th, 2009

I had two Jesus Christs on the ward. And they both spent the entire day explaining, “I am Jesus Christ.” They buttonholed everybody and explained, “I am the real Jesus Christ.”

And so I put John and Alberto on a bench and told them, “You sit there. Now, each of you tells me you’re Jesus Christ. Now, John, I want you to explain to Alberto that you, not he, are Jesus Christ. Alberto, you tell John, you are the real Jesus Christ and he is not; you are.”

I kept them sitting on that bench, explaining to each other all day long that they were the true Jesus Christ. And after about a month, John said, “I’m Jesus Christ and that crazy Alberto says that he is Jesus Christ.”

I said to John, “You know, John, you say the same thing he says. And he says the same things that you say. Now, I think that one of you is crazy, because there is only one Jesus Christ.”

John thought that over for a week. He said, “I’m saying the same things as that crazy fool is saying. He’s crazy and I’m saying what he says. That must mean I’m crazy too; and I don’t want to be crazy.”

…Erickson places John in situations where he can discover for himself that his ideas are delusional…[Rosen's commentary]

My Voice Will Go With You – The Teaching Tales of Milton Erickson, edited by Sidney Rosen, p201. Norton, 1991

Now, if we could only sit theists of different persuasions on benches..

‘Now, A, you believe your God is the one and only true God, and B, you believe your God is the one and only true God. Now I want you to..’

I don’t believe in God(s)

Saturday, June 6th, 2009

The following was taken from my old website, and written in 2004

Gods? Yes, I say ‘gods’ because to say I don’t believe in ‘God’ looks like I am in denial of the usual ‘God’ that the majority of my culture believe in, that being the Christian God known as Jehovah, I think, but generally called God. I don’t believe in that one any more than I believe in Allah, or Odin, or Zeus etc. I do not believe in the existence of any deities. In fact I see them as mythological characters. Yes that includes the ‘God’ that is prevalent in the culture of the nation I live in. I don’t believe Jesus was a son of a god, was divine, or was conceived immaculately nor rose after dying.

I can’t remember at what age I realised that something didn’t seem right about the Bible and stuff we were told at school, but I know I saw through it with an open mind at a fairly young age. I now see it as mankind’s way of explaining our existence, and with a lack of scientific understanding, for the most part, a way of looking at the Earth, nature, and the Universe. Unfortunately, what may have started out as a philosophical way of earlier man’s existence, soon turned into political control and became corrupted, and had various flavours added to embellish it.

Having no beliefs in deities, I have no concept of a ‘Devil’. I do not accept the existence of this myth, nor do I fear it. Perhaps it’s just a way of seeing bad in people. But I am inclined to think that it’s a way of exerting political control through fear.

I don’t have a problem with religion so long as nobody mentions it within earshot or view of me. I don’t object to people having their own beliefs, as I enjoy having the freedom to hold my own. I consider myself lucky to live in the era that I do, or I may have been burned alive or something similar (by religious types). Freedom is a very important thing – for everyone. Freedom of thought, speech, movement, religious persuasion, sexuality etc.

I think the nearest concept of a deity – if I had to choose – would be the Sun and the Moon, as well as the Earth, as they are what gave life*. That’s pretty basic and could be argued… but will have to do for now as I have to go and eat.

Alan Wyatt 2004

*This was presumably a nod towards nature (religions). But I would correct it now to say: Enable life to evolve and continue exist(?). The Moon:- Global tides (winter mixing, weather systems), provision of nocturnal light for predation, effects on reproduction, etc., the Sun:- provision of energy to support life via food chains. Can my naivety be overlooked? I was rambling after all.

This post was extracted from my old website files, dating about 2004. Though it is a little embarrassing (I never really thought there would be an audience, and was rambling), it is interesting that it pre-dates The God Delusion.
Added: I had read the Blind Watchmaker around then so probably borrowed that idea of ‘not believing in Zeus, etc.’ from Prof. Dawkins after all.

No helicopter in the Bible

Friday, May 29th, 2009

My earliest memories of Jesus.. At primary school I remember singing in assembly about Jesus and the parties he had with his sofa. The words of the song were:

“Dance then wherever you may be, I am the Lord of the dance settee..”

Another memory which may have preceded the sofa dance was the image planted in my mind by the response from my father when asked the question, ‘Daddy, who’s Jesus?’.

“He’s like a doctor in the sky who makes people better”

Well, I had a vivid image of a low-flying helicopter (probably like something seen on Skippy) hovering over the green where we lived, with a very cool guy, half climbing out of one side in flared suit, tie, flowing c.1970 hairstyle and a briefcase which would contain his stethoscope. In fact, he probably looked like one of The Beatles in a TV detective’s suit. I still have that image in my mind now.

So, as far as I know, there was no helicopter in the Bible, and I realise I misheard the words to ‘Lord of the Dance‘.